Thanks' @Kid V' for this testimony.

I sometimes feel a bit depressed as I have the feeling "I don't have enough time"...
I have a full time job, not a 9-5, more like a 9-7... and two children (9yo and 2mo :)),
and only work during the evenings, trying to make good beats where I put my soul.

But then I feel tired and don't work enough on the "marketing" part. Not sure where to start from, build a mailing list, yes. You all talk about the "relationship" with your customers... I always try that, but I am too kind and nice with them, so it is a nice relationship, but where I give more than I receive :)

'@FrozenjaZzBeats' there's nothing wrong with being nice and having a good relationship with your customers and ultimately you may be more rewarded because you give more than you receive. But you also have to be smart in what you're doing. Have to rememver that you have expenses too. So try to balance it out. Probably give more discounts rather than free material. Try coupons instead of free beats. Try to leverage your relationship so that you can make more money. Not in a greedy way, but in a way where your business is respectable and customers don't mind spending money with you because they are not only buying into your product but also your personality you bring to the table. Almost to say that if you were't who you are, maybe they wouldn't have done business with you. If that makes sense. So use that to benefit your business.

'@legendarybeatz' good advice.
'
@FrozenjaZzBeats' Good friendship is equally beneficial. Don't be like that kid in highschool who wants to be cool so bad they just act like a pawn for the popular kids.

You can't be friends with everyone. And you only have so much time and attention in a day anyway, so be selective with your friendships. Instead of focusing time on the people who only take and take and take... spend that time and attention on the ones who support you and your goals. Give back and reward those people. Those are the people you want for friends.

Of course, being friends and simply being friendly are two different things. If you say your lease is worth $25, and someone comes and says they should just get it for free and they don't really have anything of value to offer you, you should be FRIENDLY and TURN THEM DOWN in a kind manner. If you give in to them, you devalue yourself. And if you get angry, it looks like you're desperate. But just being friendly doesn't mean to be their friends.

Still, find those very few people who you think can support you in return, and befriend them. People buy from friends, because a good business relationship is built upon trust.

You gave some good advice too' @OxygenBeats' Definitely important not to allow yourself to get taken advantage of.

I definitely agree with' @OxygenBeats' people are going to act like your beats aren't worth buying, and those are the people you want to give the cold shoulder to, but of course let them off nicely. Also people respond to confidence, they want to buy from someone who seems professional. Every once in a while I'll go on my social media profiles and I'll post some thing like "Business is going great! Let me know if your looking for any beats I'll be in the studio all day" and people respond because I said "business is going great" and people want what other people want.

'@LoonyBinBeats' yeah, that's definitely true. People want to buy from producers who are successful. That's why people check charts. So, even if you're in a bit of a rut... don't make it a habit to let everyone know lol

'@OxygenBeats' Exactly

What' @Kid V' Said...

You mentioned some posts here helped, which ones?

'@Velocity ';

There were a few but the one's that stood out

SEO: http://soundgine.com/forum/index.php/109-the-godzilla-seo-thread/0#p772
Inspiration: http://soundgine.com/forum/index.php/conversations/success-stories
Marketing: http://soundgine.com/forum/index.php/92-a-real-guide-to-selling-beats-2015/0#p687

and recently: http://soundgine.com/forum/index.php/412-ultimate-music-selling-guide/0#p3413

But really, there are tons of gems scattered.

Best Wishes to You!

It should be like this:

Artist: Can I Get Free Beats?
You: *closes email*

I have read some great opinions on this matter. I believe what I have to offer is worth more then what I settle for. I have adjusted my prices because of the low price demand. In return I adjusted my contract to balance the worth. In the love of must I have become a Graphic Designer | Web Designer | Promoter | and Marketer| I just try to stay consistent and develop relationships with my clients.

Kid V thank u so much for the wisdom! this is ecsactly how i think and practice, but everyone ells making beats on the forums tells me: you dont need a website.soundcloud is good enough.they just smoke weed and are not doin bisniz,theyre giving away beats. and most people i get contacted by,wanna buy my beats.but,they dont wanna pay more than 50 dollars for exclusive rights! i dont give away my beats! i work hard every single day from 09:00- 17:00 and i only stop then,cus of my neighbors. if it wasnt for that,i would make beats from 09:00- 22:00. thats how serious i am. i invest all my money in gear and instrument. i practice drums,djembe,mpc,trumpets,percussion , bass guitar, dj-ing and synths/keyboard. its not enough hours in a day for me to reach my potential.thats just how i am. i love doing music,and it hurts inside when i dont. ive also hired a web-designer for 460 dollars,and made a custom logo. i need to invest. cus if i dont invest in myself, why would someone else do. theres too many rappers and producers today. and almost no one wanna pay for beats.

@LoonyBinBeats' I definitely agree with' @OxygenBeats' people are going to act like your beats aren't worth buying, and those are the people you want to give the cold shoulder to, but of course let them off nicely. Also people respond to confidence, they want to buy from someone who seems professional. Every once in a while I'll go on my social media profiles and I'll post some thing like "Business is going great! Let me know if your looking for any beats I'll be in the studio all day" and people respond because I said "business is going great" and people want what other people want.

so true! im a rapper also, and thats how i found "my producer". he had a great website,and hes name popped up on every musical social media.so i bought a beat with exclusive rights. 6 months later,i listened to the beat an it wasnt as good as i thought. ha ha. but he did sommething right.cus i payed 100 dollars.

Are you guys seeing sales slow down during Christmas season?

Some artists think your beats are wack, and then when that wack beat blows up, he get back at you saying
why you didn't sold him that beat.
Most artist don't trust the producers before they get big.
I think i'm here for like 2 months and i didn't sold a beat, i got quality beats.

'@juzicybeatz' Marketing seems to be almost as important as the actual beats. What kind of marketing are you doing?

'@godlike' i just post my website on facebook, instagram and twitter

'@juzicybeatz' I just checked out your website and I was impressed by your production. Solid tracks up.

I agree with you guys here...
However, There are millions of people that will not buy anything if they can get away with not paying for it.
On the other hand there are a million people that WILL PAY FOR SOMETHING OF VALUE.

Branding is HUGE. I have a history in the music business so for me branding already had a jumpstart when it came to starting my online beat company but I still work very hard at it.

Here's an interview below I did several years ago with a magazine which talks about how I made it in the music business. If, for anything, read it to see what I and others have gone through and let it hopefully motivate you for what you do with your business.

MusiciansWages.Com Interview With Producer Mr. Mig

By Jerry Jean On March 8, 2010
Earlier this month, I chatted via Googletalk with music producer, songwriter, remixer, and entrepreneur, Steve “Mr. Mig” Migliore, CEO of Migtight Productions.

Mig has remixed, engineered, and/or produced for Akon, Beyonce, Britney Spears, Diddy, Backstreet Boys, John Legend, Lucas Prata, Taylor Swift, Usher, and Wyclef among others.

READ THE INTERVIEW

'@VPower' I am actually yeah. Which is kinda weird because usually I get a boost in sales. BUT, it's actually not weird at all because I've pretty much abandoned my social for the last month or two to make time to work on custom projects for this chinese label and some other clients of mine... so it's probably because of that, but maybe there's something to it though? lol